{"ok":true,"events":[{"content":"Really good article. It was made in 2014. My opinion is that it was never possible to run a simple website and make it profitable because we live in a fiat system where profitability on the internet has been taken away.\n\nWill Bitcoin and Nostr change this? Yes it will, but it's going to take a long time for things to change. We already see image hosting websites popping up like nostr build. The difference is between the past and today is you will need to monetize and not accept freeloaders right from the start using zap micro-payments.\n\n\nOn the profitability of image hosting websites\n\nI\u2019ve been doing a lot of thought about whether or not it\u2019s even possible to both run a simple website and turn a profit from it and maintain a high quality of service. In particular, I\u2019m thinking about image hosts, considering that I run one (a rather unprofitable one, too), but I would think that my thoughts on this matter apply to more kinds of websites. That being said, I\u2019ll just talk about media hosting because that\u2019s where I have tangible expertise.\n\nI think that all image hosts suffer from the same sad pattern of eventual failure. That pattern is:\n\n    Create a great image hosting website (you should stop here)\n    Decide to monetize it\n    Add advertising\n    Stop allowing hotlinking\n    Add more advertising\n    Add social tools like comments, voting - attempt build a community to look at your ads\n\nMonetization is a poison. You start realizing that you wrote a shitty website in PHP on shared hosting and it can\u2019t handle the traffic. You spend more money on it and realize you don\u2019t like spending your money on it, so you decide to monetize, and now the poison has got you. There\u2019s an extremely fine line to walk with monetization. You start wanting to make enough money to support your servers, but then you think to yourself \u201cwell, I worked hard for this, maybe I should make a living from it!\u201d This introduces several problems.\n\nFirst of all, you made an image hosting website. It\u2019s already perfect. Almost anything you can think of adding will only make it worse. If you suddenly decide that you need to spend more time on it to justify taking money from it, then you have a lot of time to get things wrong. You eventually run out of the good features and start implementing the bad ones.\n\nMore importantly, though, you realize that you should be making more money. Maybe you can turn this into a nice job working on your own website! And that means you should start a business and assign yourself a salary and start making a profit and hire new people. The money has to come from somewhere. So you make even more compromises. Eventually, people stop using your service. People start to detest your service. It can get so bad that people will refuse to click on any link that leads to your website. Your users will be harassed for continuing to use your site. You fail, and everyone hates you.\n\nThis trend is observable with PhotoBucket, ImageShack, TinyPic, the list goes on. The conclusion I\u2019ve drawn from this is that it is impossible to run a profitable image hosting service without sacrificing what makes your service worthwhile. We have arrived at a troubling place with the case of Imgur, however. MrGrim (the creator of Imgur) also identified this trend and decided to put a stop to it by building a simple image hosting service for Reddit. It had great intentions, check out the old archive.org mirror of it1. With these great intentions and a great service, Imgur rose to become the 46th most popular website globally2, and 18th in the United States alone, on the shoulders of Reddit, which now ranks 47th. I\u2019m going to expand upon this here, particularly with respect to Reddit, but I included the ranks here to dissuade anyone who says \u201cthere\u2019s more than Reddit out there\u201d in response to this post. Reddit is a huge deal.\n\nOther image hosts died down when people recognized their problems. Imgur has reached a critical mass where that will not happen. 20% of all new Reddit posts are Imgur, and most users just don\u2019t know better than to use anything else. That being said, Imgur shows the signs of the image hosting poison. They stopped being an image hosting website and became their own community. They added advertising, which is fine on its own, but then they started redirecting direct links3 to pages with ads. And still, their userbase is just as strong, despite better alternatives appearing.\n\nI\u2019m not sure what to do about Imgur. I don\u2019t like that they\u2019ve won the mindshare with a staggering margin. I do know that I\u2019ve tried to make my own service immune to the image hosting poison. We run it incredibly lean - we handle over 10 million HTTP requests per day on a single server that also does transcoding and storage for $200 per month. We get about $20-$30 in monthly revenue from our Project Wonderful4 ads, and a handful of donations that usually amount to less than $20. Fortunately, $150ish isn\u2019t a hard number to pay out of our own pockets every month, and we\u2019ve made a damn good website that\u2019s extremely scalable to keep our costs low. We haven\u2019t taken seed money, and we\u2019re not really the sort to fix problems by throwing more money at it. We also won\u2019t be hiring any paid staff any time soon, so our costs are pretty much constant. On top of that, if we do fall victim to the image hosting poison, 100% of our code is open source, so the next service can skip R&D and start being awesome immediately. Even with all of that, though, all I can think of doing is sticking around until people realize that Imgur really does suck.\n\nSource: https://drewdevault.com/blog/The-profitability-of-online-services/\n","created_at":1782323020,"id":"337d9a7d5ba8051d7353d4502b2e9e6c4d3d6c90555286d286a6c605233d827d","kind":1,"pubkey":"c7acabf1fed201a53185e4dc5e0c6bae2bc5db19d73abf840535f305d8f05180","sig":"7b197c98a3c920f2ca0c1e551f85bbe92c87afa34c852ccb3341eaf37ee2023edfcb3bda2fa04daa825e16cf405dcc618fe8f1a4165f5cbeccdf03166136f9d7","tags":[["alt","A short note: Really good article. It was made in 2014. My opini..."],["r","https://archive.org/"],["r","https://drewdevault.com/blog/The-profitability-of-online-services/"],["client","Amethyst"]]}],"count":1,"total_count":1}